Pioneer Living Survival

As I have said, I am more of a keep your head low kind of survivalist, meaning I try not to worry about the government coming after me. With all the new equipment at their disposal, a cilvilan would have a next to nill chance to out gun them.  So what I'm talking about is guns that are useful for task around the homestead, and capable of bring food to the table.

Around here,  a 30-30 is about as big a gun as you need. With our woods here in the Ozarks, shots are rarely over 100 yds, so it is accurate and powerful enough to down our biggest game, the white-tailed deer. However, for someone living in the plains, a better choice might be a 30-06, .308, or a .243. All three are fairly long range guns, and will bring food to the table at some pretty incredible distances with a good scope and lots of practice  All the mentioned calibers can be reloaded.

Next is the shotgun I use a 20 ga, while many prefer the 12ga for it increased power. Both are good for small game such as rabbit and deer, and birds such as quail.  And with a slug, they can be used to bring down deer at close range. All of these shells can also be reloaded.

The last I keep is the lowly .22, which I own two. one is a single shot that belonged to my grandfather, and the other is a Nylon 66 semi-auto that belonged to my father. Both are very accurate, and is used to bring small game to the table. We also use them to dispatch a pig or two come butchering time.

my choice of guns are a 270 for deer&hog hunting a 30 30 my son now uses.we also use 20ga shot guns and one 410.i have a 22 rifle and a couple of hand guns one is a 410 judge .the judge is my newest edition mainly so my 20 year old daughter can protect herself.

Being  a self described "gun-nut," I have a lot of "me-wants!"

Being realisitc, and trying to be practical, we have managed to keep it down to what amount to "working guns," with "extras" on being of the heirloom variety. Whatever you choose to buy, i highly recommend acquiring a few spare pcritical parts for them- in a crisis, UPS may not be able to bring you a Brownells order. At the least, anything semiautomatic should have a spare extractor and extractor spring, and a spare firing pin and spring (if applicable) couldn't hurt either- unless you are set up as a machinst.

the Galt clan will regularly run FALs, 10/22s, Glock 22s in .40 and Baby Eagles in .45 ACP.

12 gauges are of the Saiga and Remington 870 Variety, and "truck guns" are SKS's (still cheap to feed off existing ammo stocks.)

I have a few around here,12 and 20ga shotguns..22,.243,.270,.35 hunting rifles and a 91/30 mosin nagant in 7.62X54R and a saiga 7.62X39

A good friend of mine is an expert on this stuff. Here is a link to an article he wrote about home defense.-

http://www.endtimesreport.com/homedefense.html
He has other articles and a huge site with tons of information.

Not only that but he has lots of information on stuff. Love his site.

skip at 01:15PM on Jul 12, 2009

As I have said, I am more of a keep your head low kind of survivalist, meaning I try not to worry about the government coming after me. With all the new equipment at their disposal, a cilvilan would have a next to nill chance to out gun them.  So what I'm talking about is guns that are useful for task around the homestead, and capable of bring food to the table.

Around here,  a 30-30 is about as big a gun as you need. With our woods here in the Ozarks, shots are rarely over 100 yds, so it is accurate and powerful enough to down our biggest game, the white-tailed deer. However, for someone living in the plains, a better choice might be a 30-06, .308, or a .243. All three are fairly long range guns, and will bring food to the table at some pretty incredible distances with a good scope and lots of practice  All the mentioned calibers can be reloaded.

Next is the shotgun I use a 20 ga, while many prefer the 12ga for it increased power. Both are good for small game such as rabbit and deer, and birds such as quail.  And with a slug, they can be used to bring down deer at close range. All of these shells can also be reloaded.

The last I keep is the lowly .22, which I own two. one is a single shot that belonged to my grandfather, and the other is a Nylon 66 semi-auto that belonged to my father. Both are very accurate, and is used to bring small game to the table. We also use them to dispatch a pig or two come butchering time.

Skip,

I agree.  I love my 30-30 and use it more than any other rifle.  And with the shotgun I like the 12ga, because I have alot of ammo for it and my 20ga has a rifled slug barrel only.  I also think the .22LR is a great gun.  It is very versatile as well.  However, I believe one should also have a handgun or two as well.  I personally would recommend the .38spc or .357mag or a 44mag.  All of these guns are very common calibers and one should not have many problems finding ammo for them.  I would tend to steer away from some other not so common calibers.

I have 2 basic gun types that I use; 1. Cartridge: of which I have 3 a single shot .45-70 with a 34 inch barrel, a .44 magnum revolver, and a single shot 12 ga. 2. Muzzleloaders: I have both flint and percussion, in both rifles and pistols, as well as a shotgun. All of the firearms that I have can be loaded with blackpowder and the bullets can be cast from any malable metal.

For myself these are the best choices since they can be reloaded with blackpowder, and blackpowder is very simple to make.

I agree with most said.  Smaller is already better.  If your trying to survive the goverment I saw on another site where a man has 300,000 rounds of ammo.  A bit of overkill, with a goverment rpg you will lose.  If were trying to be low key I personally have a 22mag which can and does take deer. just have to be a good shot.  I also have a 12 gauge but pellets do tend to mush up the game. I also pack a 357mag and/or a 9 mm if concealment is needed.  I feel that centerfire rifles tend to be expensive to use and a bit of overkill on small game.  guess wecan't take a arsenal with us.

I have .38, .357, .22, 12 gauge, 9 mm, 40 cal., SKS rifle,  and a .177. I want to get a Bushmaster.

For hard times never under estimate the lowly .22  It will put food on the table, ammo is still fairly cheap, you can store a lot in a small area. Talk to a doctor or nurse about the amount of damage a .22 will do.  I am sure it will work on the two legged animals that come to raid you food supply.  I have several guns in a variety of calibers but the .22 is what I will put to work if times get hard. One more thing to consider is the amount of noise most guns make. No need to let the world know were you are at.  The .22 is pretty quite. Just my thoughts.

I agree madmac. One can carry a lot of .22 cartridges while hunting. The .22 may be the best all around. I am also getting into the .177. Have you tried any of those? 

JCole at 05:28PM on Nov 03, 2009

I have 2 basic gun types that I use; 1. Cartridge: of which I have 3 a single shot .45-70 with a 34 inch barrel, a .44 magnum revolver, and a single shot 12 ga. 2. Muzzleloaders: I have both flint and percussion, in both rifles and pistols, as well as a shotgun. All of the firearms that I have can be loaded with blackpowder and the bullets can be cast from any malable metal.

For myself these are the best choices since they can be reloaded with blackpowder, and blackpowder is very simple to make.

My handgun is a replica of the Colt Peacemaker in .44-40. I have lots of brass for it, and am looking for a mold to cast my own lead. It uses a different dia. than most 44's, and is hard to find.

I have not. But I have several friends that have and they really like the .17 cal. One of my co-workers bought the single shot savage in .17 cal. I guess that rifle has interchangable barrels. Their are a couple variations of .17 as I understand it. Both rimfire as well as centerfire. May be something worth looking into as I don't know much about this caliber.

skip at 09:38AM on Nov 13, 2009

JCole at 05:28PM on Nov 03, 2009

I have 2 basic gun types that I use; 1. Cartridge: of which I have 3 a single shot .45-70 with a 34 inch barrel, a .44 magnum revolver, and a single shot 12 ga. 2. Muzzleloaders: I have both flint and percussion, in both rifles and pistols, as well as a shotgun. All of the firearms that I have can be loaded with blackpowder and the bullets can be cast from any malable metal.

For myself these are the best choices since they can be reloaded with blackpowder, and blackpowder is very simple to make.

My handgun is a replica of the Colt Peacemaker in .44-40. I have lots of brass for it, and am looking for a mold to cast my own lead. It uses a different dia. than most 44's, and is hard to find.

Skip , Dixie Gun works sells what you are looking for the item number for one of them is RL6336, it a 200 grain dbl mould.

My GOD.....you people gots guns?!?!?!?:cool:

Don't tell anyone and tell that dog in the jeep to keep quite about this as well. LOL. 

Won't say a word Madmac, and Odie (the dog) agreed to be tight lipped also.

We tend to like the firearms also, in fact my son owns and operates one of the largest gun stores in central Kansas.

Later................noncompliant

I have some but I'm not telling anything.....He He